PM Modi’s Podcast with Lex Fridman: Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s highly anticipated podcast with famous podcaster and computer scientist Lex Fridman was released on Sunday (March 16), offering a peek of his early life, political journey, leadership and life philosophy. The three-hour-long conversation spanned a wide range of topics, including Modi’s humble beginnings, his experiences with poverty, his time in the Himalayas and global political dynamics.
Some of the most compelling moments included his advice to the youth, life lessons from his father’s tea shop, his mention of the Godhra incident, his stand on Pakistan and a humorous exchange with former US President Barack Obama. The Prime Minister also spoke about his leadership style, the influence of the RSS and the role of spirituality in shaping his worldview.
Before starting the podcast, Lex Fridman said, “It was one of the most moving conversations and experiences of my life…Narendra Modi’s life story is incredible. He rose from poverty to lead a nation of 1.4 billion people, the biggest democracy in the world, where he won epic-scale elections for Prime Minister three times. As a leader, he fought for ideas that unite his nation of India, a nation that is composed of a large number of highly varied and disparate cultures and peoples, who have a long history marked by religious, social, and political frictions.”
Here are the top quotes by PM Modi from The Lex Fridman podcast:
PM Modi on overcoming poverty with gratitude
Reflecting on his childhood, PM Modi shared that, despite growing up in poverty, he never saw it as a hardship. Instead, he embraced every phase of life with gratitude. He fondly recalled how his uncle once gifted him white canvas shoes, which he kept polished using discarded chalk from school, highlighting his resourcefulness and optimism.
PM Modi on why the world listens to India
PM Modi reaffirmed that India, as the land of Buddha and Gandhi, champions peace and harmony. He noted his strong relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, underscoring India’s role in advocating for dialogue over conflict. He clarified that India is not neutral but firmly committed to peace.
PM Modi on secret behind his undefeated political career
PM Modi attributed his political success to a governance model centered on people, not elections. He highlighted his government’s “saturation policy,” ensuring that welfare benefits reach every citizen without discrimination. He credited the dedication of BJP workers and expressed pride in being part of the world’s largest political party, which upholds the value of giving to others.
PM Modi’s reaction on being called the world’s most powerful leader
When asked about being regarded as the world’s most powerful leader, PM Modi humbly stated that he sees himself as a Pradhan Sevak (chief servant). He emphasised that power has never been his pursuit; instead, his focus remains on meaningful work that benefits the people. He believes leadership is about service, not authority.
PM Modi reflects on 2002 Godhra riots
PM Modi also addressed the perception that the 2002 Gujarat riots were the worst in the state’s history, asserting that Gujarat had experienced frequent communal violence long before his tenure. He highlighted that riots occurred almost annually over minor disputes but noted that since 2002, Gujarat has remained peaceful. PM Modi, who was Gujarat’s Chief Minister at the time, claimed that his political opponents at the Centre attempted to falsely implicate him despite courts clearing his name twice.
He described the riots as a tragic and volatile event, comparing the atmosphere to global incidents like 9/11 and the Kandahar hijacking. “t had been just three days since I’d become a state representative, when suddenly the horrific Godhra incident occurred. It was a tragedy of unimaginable magnitude, people were burned alive,” he said. He also recalled that Gujarat was still recovering from a devastating earthquake when he assumed office, making his early tenure particularly challenging.
PM Modi opens up on relations with Pakistan
Narendra Modi reflected on India’s painful partition in 1947, highlighting the tragic bloodshed and displacement that followed. He expressed disappointment that, despite India’s efforts for peaceful coexistence, Pakistan has repeatedly chosen hostility, engaging in proxy wars and fostering terrorism. Citing examples like Osama bin Laden’s refuge in Pakistan, he described the country as a global epicenter of terrorism.
“When I became Prime Minister, I specially invited Pakistan to my swearing-in ceremony so we could turn over a new leaf. Yet, every noble attempt at fostering peace was met with hostility and betrayal. We sincerely hope that wisdom prevails upon them and they choose the path of peace. I believe even the people of Pakistan long for peace because even they must be weary of living in strife and unrest, they must have grown weary of relentless terror where even innocent children are killed and countless lives are destroyed,” Modi said. He expressed hope that Pakistan would one day abandon terrorism and choose peace, acknowledging that even its citizens must long for stability.
PM Modi on Russia-Ukraine war
“I have a close relationship with Russia and Ukraine alike. I can sit with President Putin and say that this is not the time for war, and I can also tell President Zelensky in a friendly way that brother, regardless of how many people stand with you in the world, there will never be a resolution on the battlefield,” PM Modi said. “The resolution will only come when both Ukraine and Russia come to the negotiating table,” he added.
PM Modi – ‘For a strong democracy, genuine criticism is necessary’
PM Modi expressed his openness to criticism, calling it the essence of democracy. He stated that true democracy requires embracing critique, as even scriptures advise keeping critics close for self-improvement and informed decision-making. However, he expressed concern that today’s discourse often lacks genuine criticism, which should be based on thorough research and careful analysis. Instead, people resort to baseless allegations rather than constructive feedback. He distinguished between criticism, which strengthens democracy, and accusations, which only fuel conflict. Despite facing false allegations, he remains committed to serving the nation with dedication.
Response to Donald Trump calling him a tough negotiator
Reacting to US President Donald Trump’s remark that he is a tough negotiator, PM Modi described it as Trump’s generosity. He emphasised that just as Trump prioritises America, he prioritises India, always placing the nation’s interests first without seeking harm to others.
“I have observed President Trump both during his first term and now in his second run. This time, he seems far more prepared than before…He has a clear roadmap in his mind with well-defined steps, each one designed to lead him toward his goals,” PM Modi said.
PM Modi slams UN
“The international organisations that were created have become almost irrelevant, there is no reform in them. Institutions like the UN cannot play their role. People in the world who do not care about laws and rules are doing everything, no one is able to stop them,” he said.
“As I said earlier, the world is interdependent, interconnected…Everyone needs everyone, no one can do anything alone. And I see that in all the different forums I have to go to, everyone is worried about conflict. We hope to get relief from it very soon,” the PM added.
PM Modi on conflict with China
“Of course, differences are natural. When two neighboring countries exist, occasional disagreements are bound to happen. Even within a family, not everything is always perfect. But our focus is to ensure that these differences don’t turn into disputes. That’s what we actively work toward. Instead of discord, we emphasise dialogue, because only through dialogue can we build a stable cooperative relationship that serves the best interests of both nations,” PM Modi said.
PM Modi on Artificial Intelligence
“One thing I’m about to say might sound strong, and it may even upset some people, but since you’ve asked, I’ll speak openly from my heart. No matter what the world does with AI, it will remain incomplete without India. I’m making this statement very responsibly,” he said.
Swami Vivekananda’s influence on PM Modi’s life
During his childhood, PM Modi frequently visited his village library, where he was deeply inspired by the teachings of Swami Vivekananda. He recounted a story about Vivekananda seeking help for his ailing mother from Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. When advised to pray to Goddess Kali, Vivekananda realised that the divine had already provided everything, leading him to dedicate his life to selfless service—a philosophy that profoundly impacted Modi’s own path.
Bond with Swami Atmasthananda
PM Modi recalled his time at the Ramakrishna Paramahamsa Ashram, where he formed a deep bond with Swami Atmasthananda. The spiritual leader encouraged him to dedicate his life to serving society, a message that continues to guide his leadership.
Connection with the RSS
The Prime Minister described his association with the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) as a privilege, crediting the organisation for instilling in him a sense of purpose and selfless service. He praised the RSS’s extensive contributions to education and healthcare, contrasting its values with those of leftist labor unions. He noted, “Leftist unions say, ‘Workers of the world, unite,’ but the RSS labor union says, ‘Workers, unite the world.’”
On loneliness – ‘I am never alone’
When asked if he ever feels lonely, PM Modi responded, “I never feel alone. I believe in the 1+1 theory—one is Modi, and the other is the divine.” He added that he finds strength in the support of 140 crore Indians and his guiding principle, ‘Jan Seva Hi Prabhu Seva’ (Serving the people is serving the divine).
Navigating foreign policy as Prime Minister
PM Modi recalled the skepticism he faced upon becoming Prime Minister, with critics questioning whether he could handle India’s foreign affairs. His response was firm: “India will neither bow down nor threaten others. We will engage with the world with confidence, looking eye to eye.” He reiterated that India’s foreign policy is guided by dignity, mutual respect, and the ancient philosophy of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam—the belief that the world is one family.
PM Modi’s favorite footballer – Diego Maradona
In a moment of nostalgia, PM Modi named Diego Maradona as his favorite footballer, praising his unparalleled skill and passion for the game. He also recalled visiting Shahdol in Madhya Pradesh, where he witnessed the region’s deep love for football. The locals proudly referred to their area as ‘Mini Brazil,’ reflecting the sport’s cultural significance.
Decision-making and risk-taking
PM Modi shared that he is unafraid to take bold decisions for the country’s welfare. He asserted that when a decision is right for India, he moves forward with unwavering conviction, without concern for personal loss. According to him, true leadership is about taking responsibility, which in turn inspires those around him.
PM Modi’s perspective on death
PM Modi reflected on the inevitability of death, emphasising that rather than fearing it, one should focus on making life meaningful. He urged people to channel their energy into learning, growing, and contributing to society rather than worrying about mortality.
PM Modi on significance of the Gayatri Mantra
During the podcast, Lex Fridman recited the Gayatri Mantra and sought PM Modi’s guidance on pronunciation. In response, Modi recited the mantra himself and elaborated on its deeper significance. He explained that the Gayatri Mantra is deeply rooted in Surya Upasana (sun worship) and carries both spiritual and scientific significance. He highlighted how ancient Indian traditions seamlessly integrate spirituality and science, offering timeless wisdom to humanity.