INTERVIEW | 80% of stressed assets resolved, only 20% in liquidation, says MS Sahoo, head of the insolvency regulator, IBBI

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Updated: Mar 03, 2020 1:04 PM

Since the IBC’s inception in 2016, as many as 780 companies have gone into liquidation while only 190 companies have seen resolution.

MS Sahoo, the head of the insolvency regulator IBBI, asserts three-fourths of the companies that have gone into liquidation were already defunct when the Code was invoked.

Even as the insolvency and bankruptcy code (IBC) is set to complete four years in May, critics have called it a tool of liquidation rather than resolution. MS Sahoo, the head of the insolvency regulator IBBI, asserts three-fourths of the companies that have gone into liquidation were already defunct when the Code was invoked. So the claims of massive job losses due to liquidation under the IBC are unfounded. In an interview to FE’s Banikinkar Pattanayak, Sahoo says as and when fresh default cases come up, chances of resolution as well as recovery remain high. Edited excerpts:

Since the IBC’s inception in 2016, as many as 780 companies have gone into liquidation while only 190 companies have seen resolution. Is the Code delivering on its promise?

The number of companies getting into liquidation is four times that of companies getting rescued. But this needs to be seen in the context. The companies rescued had assets valued at close to Rs.0.8 lakh crore, while the companies sent for liquidation had assets valued only at Rs.0.2 lakh crore, when they entered the IBC process. Thus, in value terms, stressed assets rescued are four times those sent for liquidation. It is also important to note that of the companies rescued, one-third were either defunct or under the BIFR (Board of Industrial and Financial Reconstruction). And of the companies sent for liquidation, three-fourth were either defunct or under the BIFR.

Will there be a situation where fewer companies will go for liquidation and more will see resolution?

Yes. In the days to come, a smaller number of companies would reach the stage of liquidation and, therefore, fewer liquidations. A distressed asset has a life cycle. Its value declines with time, if distress is not addressed. The credible threat of IBC process that a company may change hands has changed the behaviour of debtors. Thousands of debtors are settling defaults at early stages of the life cycle of a distressed asset. They are settling when default is imminent, on the receipt of a notice for repayment but before filing an application, after filing application but before its admission, and even after admission of the application, and making best effort to avoid consequences of IBC process. These stages are akin to preventive care, primary care, secondary care, and tertiary care in respect of sickness. Most of the companies are rescued in these stages and hardly 5% of companies reach the liquidation stage, which is something like quaternary care / hospices. At this stage, the value of the company is substantially eroded, and hence some of them would be rescued, and others liquidated. The stakeholders would increasingly address the distress in early stages and the best use of IBC would be not using it all.

A media report has suggested job losses of 1.1 million on account of liquidations. Is it correct?

I have seen the report. It is premised on the misconstruction that the companies undergoing liquidation have assets (and consequently employment), at least equal to the aggregate claim of the creditors, which is Rs.4.6 lakh crore. But the reality is they have far lower level of assets on the ground, which are valued at just Rs.0.2 lakh crore. Take the examples of Ghotaringa Minerals and Orchid Healthcare, which are liquidated. They owed Rs 8,163 crore, while they had absolutely no asset and employment. What is material in this context is the assets a company really has or employment it provides, and not how much it owes to creditors. The IBC process would release the idle or under-utilised assets valued at Rs.0.2 lakh crore, which would have dissipated with time, for employment. 51 companies having assets valued at Rs.93 crore have been completely liquidated. Rs.96 crore realised from the sale of those assets has been released. Also, consider the jobs saved by the rescue of 80% of the distressed assets (through resolution), and the jobs being created by new owners of rescued companies.

How has been the recovery for financial creditors so far?

Under the IBC, recovery is incidental, only after rescuing a company in distress. This incidental recovery has been pretty good. As many as 190 companies have been rescued till December, 2019 through resolution plans. They owed Rs.3.8 lakh crore to creditors. However, the realisable value of the assets available with them, when they entered IBC process, was only Rs.0.77 lakh crore. The IBC maximises the value of the existing assets, not of the assets which do not exist. Under IBC, the creditors recovered Rs.1.6 lakh crore, which is about 207% of the realisable (liquidation) value of these companies. . Any other option of recovery or liquidation would have recovered at best Rs.100 minus the cost of recovery/liquidation, while the creditors recovered Rs.207 under IBC. The excess recovery of Rs.107 is a bonus on account of IBC. Despite recovery of 207% of the realisable value, the financial creditors had to take a haircut of 57%, as compared to their claims. This only reflects the extent of value erosion by the time the companies entered the IBC process. Nevertheless, as compared to other options, bankers have recovered much better through IBC. Please consider the recovery in early stages distress, which is much higher, and it is primarily because of IBC.

How do you see the Code’s performance vis-à-vis other tools like Sarfaesi and DRT, etc?

One can compare the recovery rate under IBC with other options for recovery. The RBI data indicate that in 2018-19, the banks recovered 5.3%, 3.5%, 14.5% and 42.5% of the amount involved respectively through Lok Adalats, DRTs, SARFAESI and IBC. In addition to recovery and rescue, the Code provides so many enduring benefits for which there is no comparison. This is a Swachhata drive to clean up NPAs, and to put companies in capable and credible hands. This reinforces rule of law that treats every company on the same level playing field, irrespective of its size or the influence of the people behind them. Repayment of loan is no more an option, but an obligation. With IBC in place, as the Hon’ble Supreme Court puts it, the defaulter’s paradise is lost. Failing is succeeding in Silicon Valley. An entrepreneur should not be stuck up in a business if he is failing to deliver. The Code rescues the entrepreneurs from further perils, as observed by the Prime Minister.

Resolution process in as many as 635 of the 1,961 ongoing cases have exceeded the mandatory 270 days. How to cut the delay?

Three things have happened. The bench capacity of the NCLT and NCLAT have been substantially increased recently. There has been considerable learning by all elements of the ecosystem over the last two years. The resolution is now professionalised. Most of the contentious issues have been sorted out by the Hon’ble Supreme Court. The impact of these is visible in disposal of matters in the last quarter.

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